Living room insulation

One of the walls in the living room is adjacent to a bedroom wall. Since the living room will be the media center Kathy and I considered it important to put something in the walls to moderate sound. In the previous post I told you about my sudden impulse to order sound reduction insulation. The Roxul mineral wool insulation did not arrive in time, but the soundproof cow Quiet Batt did.

I had to work Wednesday evening from 4pm to midnight so I got up early and installed the insulation because I (mistakenly) thought that the drywall was going to be installed in the living room and mudroom yesterday.

Quiet Batt wall. The wall studs were very uneven so it took some effort to cut the batts to fit.

Here are some photos of the Quiet Batt. It took me only 2 hours and was basically fun. I did lose a little blood though. That happens when you rake a utility knife over your finger rather than the insulation.

Fortunately blood doesn't affect either the sound reduction or insulation properties of the batts.

Insulation that reduces sound - Soundproof Cow

The Lenore house is a tiny, tiny house. A complication of that is that sound could be a problem. I ordered some insulation to reduce sound transmission. I actually went crazy, didn't even measure square footage that I needed and ordered from 2 different companies.

The first one I special ordered from Home Depot is Roxul Comfort Batt. Roxul has a specific sound attenuation insulation but it is about $5 more per package so I just went with the regular insulation. This insulation is a mineral wool insulation meaning it is made from volcanic rock and coal slag (slag is leftovers from coal burning). It is basically noncombustible and will not absorb water. Their website shows a demonstration of Roxul insulation in a window of a cement block building compared to fiberglass. The building is full off old pallets and set on fire. When the temperature has peaked around 2000 degrees the Roxul window is cool enough to put your hand on it, but the fiberglass insulation is long gone.

If I have leftover Roxul insulation I will use it in the attic after cellulose has been blown in between the rafters. I think the insulation I got has an R value of 15 to fit between 2 x 4 studs.

Ok, so I order all this cool mineral wool insulation, but I have been trying to get some denim insulation for a long time. The main company that makes it is Bonded Logic and it's called One Touch only no one has it and you can't even order it as a special order from Home Depot. I figure the company must be difficult to work with because no one carries it around here.  So I found something online that is also made from denim scraps called Quiet batt. It's got an R-value of 13. I ordered it, printed up the receipt and never got an email confirmation from the company. I kept meaning to check on the order but didn't for various reasons - inertia, procrastination, iPhone died, etc. Today I was able to get my iPhone fixed (by getting a new iPhone under warranty). I was coming home from the Apple store and I get a message from "SOUNDPROOF COW" that my insulation has arrived. Soundproof cow? I think I would have remembered if I ordered from a company called Soundproof cow. Anyway, I get home and find 5 boxes of denim insulation. Yeah! How fun! Soundproof cow did not let me down.

I just looked up my order. The receipt is from American Micro Industries which has a subsidiary called "soundprooffoam". Where soundproof cow came from I will never know. But Kathy and I did have a good laugh about the company name.

We dropped off the boxes to the Lenore house. I will try to install it Wed morning, then Martin the drywall guy can start to drywall.

I hope to work on the floors soon but I have got a lot of shifts in the next few days and I have some other work-related paperwork stuff that is absolutely haunting me. Floors probably won't get done until some time in December.

Goal for habitation of the Lenore house is by Christmas.

We tried. We really tried. Part 2

Once again Kathy and I were getting ready to paint some walls and we just could not do it. We had to gut the walls.  This is the mudroom with the new storm door installed. Carlton and Chris did a great job with it. The only problem is that the surrounding walls and ceiling were really too horrible to keep even temporarily.

The tiny mudroom was lined with thin paneling overlying who knows what. Yes, you can see me in the reflection of the door with my iPhone as the camera.

So once again we are "forced" gut a room that was not intended to be gutted. The problem with this room is that 2 walls have asbestos siding underneath. I had to be very careful pulling nails. I was in full hazmat gear when I gutted that room - respirator, suit, gloves, safety glasses.

This is the outer wall of the mudroom after pulling off the panels. No asbestos here, but what is the hazard down in the corner?

A giant hornet's nest in the wall. 

There were no live hornets probably because of the termite treatment done before I bought the house. Thank goodness for that.

After I got all the wood panels off, I pulled nails. I did not remove the asbestos siding. I've read that it is best to leave it alone and just cover it up. Then I wet the debris on the floor so whatever asbestos fibers that were released would not become airborne. I didn't use a vacuum to get them up for the same reason. I swept the wet debris into a garbage bag and tied it up.

After all the nails were gone, I painted the asbestos siding with primer with disposable foam brushes to encapsulate whatever surface asbestos fibers were there. That way when Carlton and Chris put up some drywall or whatever in the room, their exposure will be limited.

You can see the asbestos siding below the beadboard ceiling I uncovered. The ceiling was one of  the cool things we've found. 

The other area Kathy and I felt compelled to gut was the hallway, basically a small rectangle in the middle of the tiny house. We did find kind of a cool piece of wallpaper in the hallway. 

Looks like some kind of old toile wallpaper. I think it would have been pretty cool in its time.

The frustrating thing for the people helping us with the house (Carlton, Chris, Martin, Don and Buck)  is that they had already installed 2 wall sconces, the thermostat, and moved the return air vent to the hallway wall from the floor when we made the decision to gut the walls. The guys have been very kind about the changes. 

Now I am determined NOT to gut the kitchen even though it has no insulation and desparately needs gutting. I think I will be able to reign in my impulses for a number of reasons:

1. I am running out of money

2. My brother is a cabinet-maker and he is nowhere near ready to make the cabinets. 

3. We need to get Adam and Kathy into their own home. 

4. No money plays a big part. 

Still working on the floors. I'll do a separate post about the challenges of refinishing the floors. 

I'll leave you with a picture of the little house. I think it is going to look incredible when we finish. 

I'm smiling behind the mask. 

We tried. We really tried.

We tried to tell ourselves that we could just put in a new (insulated) picture window in the den and paint the paneling and it would be good enough. We tried. Really we did. We were almost ready to paint primer in the room.  But we just couldn't do it. The pictures tell the story.

This is the doorway in the den that leads to the enclosed porch. You can see the paneling and trim that was in the den. Well, still is in the den. About 1/2 of it is gone now.  I will replace the glass in the door before Adam and Kathy move in.

You can see the rotted wood around the window sill of the picture window. Not good. 

This is wall in the den with the trim and the paneling pulled off.  Next step is the drywall removal. I had to tape the picture window in place so it would not fall on me and cause massive blood loss.

That's the condition of the den tonight. If the windows are in tomorrow, the carpenter crew can easily remove the drywall and install the windows. I am trying to do everything that I know how to do so the carpenters (Carlton and Chris) can do the skillful stuff. 

Kathy worked on her room, cleaning walls, patching holes in the wall from the millions of nails that were in the walls and finally priming them. Her room is coming together. She needs a window replacement in that room as well. The only reason we did not gut her room is that we will install a bathroom in her room next year and it will have to be gutted then. We can make her room livable without gutting it. 

Renovation begins

I finally got to work on the new (old) house that is going to be a rental house for family members. Kathy and I went over there to start prepping the walls for painting, but got much more than we bargained for.  The room we started on is for Adam, Kathy's son. We looked at the wall and knew that we had to pull the paneling off. We hoped the drywall layer underneath was adequate but that was not to be. So we had to pull off the paneling and the drywall. Kathy had never done any demolition before so it was new to her.

The drywall was in a "pre-demolition" state when we found it. 

I pulled trim that I hope to reuse. This is a "green" renovation after all.

Kathy got to whack drywall. She found it therapeutic.

This is one of the 3 pieces of insulation that we found in the wall.

That was day one of our part of the renovation of the rental house. My contractor's crew had been hard at work for about a month before we actually got into it. A new furnace is being installed, vinyl flooring and old carpet had already been pulled up. I'll show you where we are now in the next post.